Talk:Ding Dong! Merrily on high (Traditional)

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Composer

The earliest source for the tune (Branle de l'Official) appears to be Thoinot Arbeau's Orchésographie (see this page and this one). Since we already have a page for Arbeau, would it be best to attribute this tune to him, and to explain its background on the 'Ding Dong' page - or is there a reasoning for putting it at 'Traditional', that the tune may have been circulating more generally at the time, and just noted down by Arbeau, rather than composed by him? Cydonia 16:28, 30 May 2012 (CDT)

As the editor of the most recent music sheet here I wondered about this as well. I did not do any in-depth research about the melody composer but copied the text notes verbatim - I prepared the music sheet as performance material. Of course "Traditional" is often a short-hand of "there was/there must have been a melody inventor but nae bother", the "Anonymous" is more honestly like "someone else has dropped the composer's name". If it turns out that Melody by Arbeau and Harmony by Wood is a proper attribution then I am happy to update the score accordingly. -- KlausFoehl 09:27, 31 May 2012 (CDT)

classification following melody or partsong?

Seeing the Category:Romantic music being replaced by Category:Renaissance music I wonder whether one should differentiate between the melody first found in Arbeau and the popular harmonisation by Wood (i.e. have separate wiki entries)? -- KlausFoehl 09:34, 31 May 2012 (CDT)

Humm, that's a good question! My decision to change the categorization was triggered by Cydonia's post above, taking into account that Arbeau was a Renaissance composer, but I forgot about the harmonization issue. Works such as Gounod's Ave Maria and Duruflé's Ubi caritas are probably considered Romantic music, although originally Baroque and Medieval, respectively. So, maybe you have a point in suggesting that this page should also be split. —Carlos Email.gif 11:04, 31 May 2012 (CDT)
Well, I am stopping short of soliciting that change, merely asking the question. On one hand there are harmonizations from several persons among the editions, on the other hand several of them are basing themselves on the Wood harmonization. While a separate page for the Wood harmonization would help a composer-based search or following categories, it also does fragment the information ending up separate pages. -- KlausFoehl 08:19, 1 June 2012 (CDT)