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== How CPDL gets the copyrights on sheetmusic? == | == How CPDL gets the copyrights on sheetmusic? == | ||
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Do you mean the copyright notice printed on the actual score? That is put there by the individual editor who creates the score. They vouch for the provenance of the individual score and assert the nature of its copyright. Or do you mean on the CPDL page created specifically for that score? | Do you mean the copyright notice printed on the actual score? That is put there by the individual editor who creates the score. They vouch for the provenance of the individual score and assert the nature of its copyright. Or do you mean on the CPDL page created specifically for that score? | ||
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==Copyrights: More restrictions in Europe?== | ==Copyrights: More restrictions in Europe?== | ||
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How CPDL gets the copyrights on sheetmusic?
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Hi, On the sheetmusic that comes from the CPDL, it is mentioned that CPDL possess the copyright(s) and everyone should freely use this material. The CPDL, for however it may be, claims the copyright(s). I should like to know how and with what criteria CPDL all this material have previously investigated so CPDL can be owner of these copyrights particulary in Europe. Further, in this connection it is a pity that on the sheetmusic there mostly is not a mention of i.e. the origin of the CPDL material. thanks! jaap douma | |
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Copyrights: More restrictions in Europe?
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Hi, A Question that concerns me is the following issue: In CHORALWIKI: "About Copyright" it is mentioned that in Europe there are 5 seperate copyrights with a single composer. But from the board of copyrightholders in the Netherlands I got a message concerning the music and sheetmusic that is offered by CPDL should not be legal while this music should not be precise the original creation of that composer. In German , it is not the same as the UrText. For example, a work created in 1300 should not exactly be used in the CPDL sheetmusic. The sheetmusic offered by CPDL should be divergent and possibly been edited. I can't hardly believe that allegation but can someone help me to clear this problem? regards, jaap douma | |
Vincenzo Ruffo
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I would be grateful if someone would upload more of Ruffo's later sacred works, particularly his Masses (such as Missa Sanctissimae Trinitatis). It is surprising that he has only one work represented on CPDL. Thank you. | |
Jacob Handl's O Admirabile Commercium
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Hi. I'm looking for a PD copy of Jacob Handl's SSAATTBB O Admirabile Commercium. I have a copy of the Ernest White edited version published by Theodore Presser but was hoping to find a PD copy for my choir. If anyone knows of where to find a PD copy, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! | |
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Not public domain, but Handlo has an edition (we sang it tonight) for $15.50 at: http://www.handlo-music.com/scores/handlo_list_h.htm | |
Orlando di Lasso
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Please, if anyone can help me to find a piece of Lassus "Poi che'l mio largo pianto"! I do need it very much indeed! Thanks! | |
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Until a few months ago a copy of a score called Chi chi li chi was available here at CPDL, but it was mis-attributed to Andrea Gabrieli. It wasn't rightly included in the di Lasso section, but in any case it has been removed completely now. Is there any way for me to get a hold of it or any other arrangement of this piece? Any help would be greatly appreciated! | |
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Hi! I don't know why the search engine doesn't bring this score, but it is still available at CPDL. As for the authorship, it seems many composers of the time made arrangements for this popular theme. Lassus himself had two versions, a 3 and a 6 voci. Giovanni Domenico da Nola also made one. I just heard a recording of di Lassus' setting and it is indeed very similar to this score available here, but there are still diferences, which leads me to conclude this is in fact a Gabrieli's work as stated. | |
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Googling on this subject, I incidentally found that Giovanni Domenico da Nola's setting was already at CPDL, uploaded by user Alqasar on 2007-10-15. A page for this score now exists and can be found here. | |
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Thank you very much! | |
New interesting paragraph of the Italian copyright law
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On February 9, 2008, a new paragraph (para. 1b of art. 70) of the Italian copyright law came into force. The original text in Italian is the following: È consentita la libera pubblicazione attraverso la rete internet, a titolo gratuito, di immagini e musiche a bassa risoluzione o degradate, per uso didattico o scientifico e solo nel caso in cui tale utilizzo non sia a scopo di lucro. Con decreto del Ministro per i beni e le attività culturali, sentiti il Ministro della pubblica istruzione e il Ministro dell’università e della ricerca, previo parere delle Commissioni parlamentari competenti, sono definiti i limiti all’uso didattico o scientifico di cui al presente comma. Does anybody know whether similar provisions exist in other countries, too (besides the well known "fair use" of the U.S. regulations)? | |
Suitability of orchestral parts
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It was suggested on my talk page that I ask the powers that be here whether it is appropriate to upload non-choral orchestral parts to choral pieces such as this one. I've assumed it will only be a matter of time before that choral score is added, but I find it hard to make out the precise scope of ChoralWiki. For example, are 'unison (one-per-part) and piano' scores officially welcome? | |
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Hi Richard. Good question! Put simply, any work which contains one or more voices is welcome at CPDL. This includes works for unison voices, solo vocal works, and choral works. Orchestral parts are most definitely welcome on CPDL, as long as the work they are for is scored for choir (or, a solist or group of soloists). Solo vocal works are also most welcome (obviously they're even more welcome with a vocal score as well!) I've recently been playing around with Henry Purcell's page to separate the choral and solo vocal works. The only thing to be aware of is that there is a whole set of separate categories for solo vocal works - if you're not sure that you've applied the right one, just ask here and someone will help you out. Unison works, for example, are not categorised as solo vocal as they are most likely to be sung by a choir in usison - see Jerusalem (Charles Hubert Hastings Parry) for an example. I hope this answers your question. | |
Request for: Eustache du Caurroy - 'Missa pro defunctis'
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Could anyone upload the score of wonderful Eustache du Caurroy's Missa pro defunctis (requiem)? In particular I would like to teach my choir the first part: "Requiem aeternam". Thank you everybody, Paolo. | |
Request for: Elgar - 'Give unto the Lord'
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Could anyone be persuaded to produce the vocal score for this wonderful anthem (maybe with just cues from the organ part)? It has been on the 'request' list for some years, with Robert Nottingham as a volunteer. (Robert has recently produced a high quality score of another of Elgar's anthems, 'Great is the Lord', but I think he is too busy at the moment to take on another score!) Thanks, Roger. | |
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Just hang on a few more weeks, Roger. It's in the works! | |
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Hello Robert: it is Welsford here (you remember, broke up a fight between you and the then Pres of Leics. Choral Soc. Is it you that has volunteered to do the 'Fear not, O land' of Elgar too? I am keen to do it for Harvest and this will be the third year so would like to produce a set of our own. Is it you? Who is it? Tell me, tell me! Will | |
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Hello Lard (sorry - Will). Jolly good thing you broke up that fight - I thought she was about to knock my block off! I can do that piece of Elgar for you as well, if you like, though I don't recall volunteering to do it. I think I have a copy lying around somewhere... | |
The Creation by Haydn
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Is it possible to make available the full score of The Creation by Haydn? | |
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Since it's such a large work, you may have more success asking at the IMSLP (International Music Score Library Project) or on the IMSLP forums. | |
Scanned scores
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I found elsewhere two Bach's Cantatas in PDF format scanned from paper scores. They haven't any copyright info, should I assume they're copyrighted? | |
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I'm not a lawyer, yada yada yada... I'd be inclined to assume they are copyright but in the absense of any details of editor or publisher, there's not much you can do to find out. It's a tricky one but because Bach is in the pd and also as the editorial additions will be minimal at best, I suggest that you can copy it with a clear concience. Now if the composer was not in the pd or an editor is listed then that would be a different matter entirely, of course. | |
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Not sure what country you're in. You should assume the edition is copyrighted unless the edition says so or you have actual reason to believe its copyright expired. | |
Score for Corsican Chant
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I'm studying music theory and would like to look at any score of traditional Corsican chant, but I can't find any on line or at the local (University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee) music library. Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. Karen | |
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I have Vinu di Petra, an edition of (some) Corsican pieces edited by Chantal Landi and Marie Colonna de' Paoli. Published by Van de Velde (Paris). ISMN: M-56005-264-9. | |
Message for "Violino" who requested other language choral pieces
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Hi "Violino" There's a Greek one that you might like: It's called Apolytikion (a dismissal at the end of a service) and is based on the original Byzantine chant Kind regards David | |
I've reposted a missing score
(moved here from: CPDL support, help, and feedback)
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See: I was glad (Henry Purcell) I've reposted Andrew Crookall's score of Henry Purcell's "I was glad" If there is any reason to restore the old CPDL number to this reposting someone that knows how to find this information out is invited to make the change. | |
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Thanks for that, John. It seems that Raf deleted a number of score pages which contained Andrew Crookall's editions when his site went down. I remember restoring How beautiful upon the mountains (John Stainer) that I found by chance (it was still linked from the composer page as I recall). The CPDL numbers are around the 8000 mark but it's anyone's guess as to which ones were Andrew Crookall's... in my opinion, new catalogue numbers are fine in this case. Please do post any more lost editions that you have on your computer. | |
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Great! I have been looking for this score - it is a great piece, which I am thinking of using. - Roger. (PS one needs a degree in Computer Science to drive this forum :-) ) | |