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Orlando di Lasso

  • Posted by: AucsLib 12:48, 18 May 2008 (PDT)
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Until a few months ago a copy of a score called Chi chi li chi was available here at CPDL, but it was mis-attributed to Andrea Gabrieli. It wasn't rightly included in the di Lasso section, but in any case it has been removed completely now. Is there any way for me to get a hold of it or any other arrangement of this piece? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Hi! I don't know why the search engine doesn't bring this score, but it is still available at CPDL. As for the authorship, it seems many composers of the time made arrangements for this popular theme. Lassus himself had two versions, a 3 and a 6 voci. Giovanni Domenico da Nola also made one. I just heard a recording of di Lassus' setting and it is indeed very similar to this score available here, but there are still diferences, which leads me to conclude this is in fact a Gabrieli's work as stated.

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Googling on this subject, I incidentally found that Giovanni Domenico da Nola's setting was already at CPDL, uploaded by user Alqasar on 2007-10-15. A page for this score now exists and can be found here.

New interesting paragraph of the Italian copyright law

  • Posted by: Choralia 08:24, 17 May 2008 (PDT)
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On February 9, 2008, a new paragraph (para. 1b of art. 70) of the Italian copyright law came into force. The original text in Italian is the following:

È consentita la libera pubblicazione attraverso la rete internet, a titolo gratuito, di immagini e musiche a bassa risoluzione o degradate, per uso didattico o scientifico e solo nel caso in cui tale utilizzo non sia a scopo di lucro. Con decreto del Ministro per i beni e le attività culturali, sentiti il Ministro della pubblica istruzione e il Ministro dell’università e della ricerca, previo parere delle Commissioni parlamentari competenti, sono definiti i limiti all’uso didattico o scientifico di cui al presente comma.

It can be roughly translated as follows:

It is allowed to freely publish through the internet network, at no charge, low resolution or degradated images and music, for educational or scientific use, and only in the case that such a use is not made for profit. The limits for the educational or scientific use are defined with a decree of the Ministry of Cultural Activites, with the advice of the ministry of Education, of the ministry of University and Research, and of the competent committees of the Parliament.

Even though the precise meaning of "low resolution or degradated images and music" is yet to be defined in a specific decree, this seems a rather innovative principle, applicable to choir training aids (so, this is of great interest for me), but probably also to non-public-domain study scores for amateur choirs, provided that such scores are "rough enough" with respect to the copyrighted originals.

Does anybody know whether similar provisions exist in other countries, too (besides the well known "fair use" of the U.S. regulations)?

Suitability of orchestral parts

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It was suggested on my talk page that I ask the powers that be here whether it is appropriate to upload non-choral orchestral parts to choral pieces such as this one. I've assumed it will only be a matter of time before that choral score is added, but I find it hard to make out the precise scope of ChoralWiki. For example, are 'unison (one-per-part) and piano' scores officially welcome?

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Hi Richard. Good question! Put simply, any work which contains one or more voices is welcome at CPDL. This includes works for unison voices, solo vocal works, and choral works.

Orchestral parts are most definitely welcome on CPDL, as long as the work they are for is scored for choir (or, a solist or group of soloists). Solo vocal works are also most welcome (obviously they're even more welcome with a vocal score as well!) I've recently been playing around with Henry Purcell's page to separate the choral and solo vocal works. The only thing to be aware of is that there is a whole set of separate categories for solo vocal works - if you're not sure that you've applied the right one, just ask here and someone will help you out. Unison works, for example, are not categorised as solo vocal as they are most likely to be sung by a choir in usison - see Jerusalem (Charles Hubert Hastings Parry) for an example. I hope this answers your question.

Request for: Eustache du Caurroy - 'Missa pro defunctis'

  • Posted by: paololux 13:00, 8 May 2008 (PDT)
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Could anyone upload the score of wonderful Eustache du Caurroy's Missa pro defunctis (requiem)? In particular I would like to teach my choir the first part: "Requiem aeternam". Thank you everybody, Paolo.

Request for: Elgar - 'Give unto the Lord'

  • Posted by: Rogmufa 05:46, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
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Could anyone be persuaded to produce the vocal score for this wonderful anthem (maybe with just cues from the organ part)?

It has been on the 'request' list for some years, with Robert Nottingham as a volunteer. (Robert has recently produced a high quality score of another of Elgar's anthems, 'Great is the Lord', but I think he is too busy at the moment to take on another score!)

Thanks, Roger.

The Creation by Haydn

  • Posted by: John 06:03, 29 April 2008 (PDT)
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Is it possible to make available the full score of The Creation by Haydn?

Scanned scores

  • Posted by: Carlos 04:21, 16 April 2008 (PDT)
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I found elsewhere two Bach's Cantatas in PDF format scanned from paper scores. They haven't any copyright info, should I assume they're copyrighted?

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I'm not a lawyer, yada yada yada...

I'd be inclined to assume they are copyright but in the absense of any details of editor or publisher, there's not much you can do to find out. It's a tricky one but because Bach is in the pd and also as the editorial additions will be minimal at best, I suggest that you can copy it with a clear concience. Now if the composer was not in the pd or an editor is listed then that would be a different matter entirely, of course.

Score for Corsican Chant

  • Posted by: Karen 08:06, 16 April 2008 (PDT)
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I'm studying music theory and would like to look at any score of traditional Corsican chant, but I can't find any on line or at the local (University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee) music library. Any leads would be greatly appreciated! Thank you. Karen

Message for "Violino" who requested other language choral pieces

  • Posted by: dwsolo 17:54, 15 April 2008 (PDT)
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Hi "Violino" There's a Greek one that you might like:

It's called Apolytikion (a dismissal at the end of a service) and is based on the original Byzantine chant

Kind regards

David

I've reposted a missing score

(moved here from: CPDL support, help, and feedback)

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See: I was glad (Henry Purcell)

I've reposted Andrew Crookall's score of Henry Purcell's "I was glad" If there is any reason to restore the old CPDL number to this reposting someone that knows how to find this information out is invited to make the change.

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Thanks for that, John. It seems that Raf deleted a number of score pages which contained Andrew Crookall's editions when his site went down. I remember restoring How beautiful upon the mountains (John Stainer) that I found by chance (it was still linked from the composer page as I recall). The CPDL numbers are around the 8000 mark but it's anyone's guess as to which ones were Andrew Crookall's... in my opinion, new catalogue numbers are fine in this case. Please do post any more lost editions that you have on your computer.

  • Posted by: Rogmufa 05:51, 5 May 2008 (PDT)
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Great! I have been looking for this score - it is a great piece, which I am thinking of using. - Roger. (PS one needs a degree in Computer Science to drive this forum :-) )