ChoralWiki talk:2005 news

My concern with the WIKI format is the general openness of the content. Is there any way to arrange to control access to certain pages at some point, permitting access to a particular page to be limited to a moderator? For example, I can see one contributor spending a great deal of time cataloguing the available works of Palestrina, only to have another contributor completely undo the work of the first, and substitute his or her own.

I also fear more deliberate mischief....

Noel Stoutenburg

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Hi Noel!

It is VERY open (a strength and challenge...) It is certainly worth a try. There may be some 'turf' battles, but pages can be edited and re-edited, and old pages can be retrieved. BTW, would you be interested in being a monitor?

Rafael Ornes

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1718 CDT 24 August

Rafel

My time is stretched rather thin at the moment, as I'm in the midst of major projects. So the best answer at this moment is probably "maybe". For the time being, I'll watch for and alert to problems as I see them. I think that it would be reasonable and proper at this point to establish some ground rules; for example the preferred way of handling a composer for whom there is ambiguity about the dates of his birth and death. Another example: I think some guideline needs to be set for naming scores. At the moment, under the Palestrina pages, all of the "Agnus dei" settings group together; three ways to deal with this come immediately to my mind: 1) establish a "super title", for example "Missa 'Tu es petrus'", which, if present would be the first sort criterion; 2) establish a uniform nomenclature, so that for any Mass the names of the movements are

"Missa 'name [if any]'" 1 Kyrie, "Missa 'name [if any];" 2 Gloria,&c.

A "Missa brevis", then, might omit the movements not set

ns

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I agree that there is a great deal of work to be done. In the case of masses, the lists are ridiculously long on the composer pages. I think that all movements should be moved to a works page (check out Mozart's 'Organ solo' Mass for an example). Unfortunately, CPDL was not originally designed to think in terms of works, but scores, so there will be a great deal of work to fix this issue.

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0727 CDT 25 August, 2005 [4 shopping months til Christmas]

Rafael:

WRT "Scores, not works", It is the exception, rather than the rule, to be able to purchase a single movement from a Mass. To stick with Palestrina, the composer in question, purchasing the choral score to "Missa Papa Marcellæ" gets all five mass movements, in one score.

Another issue that needs to be addressed, I think, is the question of ambiguity or confusion about things such as composer's dates, and in some cases, spelling of name. The 17th / 18th century Mexican composer, Manuel de Sumaya's name is alternatively spelled in some sources "Zumaya", and there is some question as to the date of his death; I have seen both 1756 and 1754 in sources of about equal credibility.

ns

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1727 CDT 25 August, 2005 [3 shopping months, 30 1/4 days til Christmas]

Rafael:

Another issue that I think needs to be addressed is making it clearer where a score resides, and reconsideration whether a score on an external site should be counted in the score count. I have my own thoughts on this, but prefer not to state them at this point.

ns