Category talk:Keyboard reduction

Orchestral works

Can we use this category for editions that have a keyboard reduction of an Orchestral accompaniment too? Both the category description and the {{KbdRed}} template specify that they should be reductions of a cappella works. —Carlos  03:07, 16 September 2008 (PDT)

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen♫ 04:42, 16 September 2008 (PDT)  Help  The proper template to use is Template:KbdVer which is for "a keyboard version of the original accompaniment". I know that "reduction" is sometimes used to denote keyboard versions of orchestral (or other) accompaniments, but the issue at CPDL is resolved by having this latter meaning of "reduction" transferred to the word "version."

Thanks for the hint, Chuck! Do you think it's really necessary to differenciate between these two situations? Couldn't we have just one single category for all score pages that have a non-original keyboard accompaniment? —Carlos  05:46, 16 September 2008 (PDT)

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen♫ 08:17, 16 September 2008 (PDT)  Help  I definitely feel these must be differentiated. Typically, keyboard reductions of an a capella vocal score are for rehearsal only and only to be used in performance when singers are not up to singing without aid of the keyboard. On the other hand, keyboard versions of orchestral (or other original) accompaniment are generally essential to the performance of a work - or to the rehearsal of a work before a performance with the originally intended accompaniment (since such instrumentalists may only be available by hire or limited rehearsals before the performance). Indeed, many oratorios and other large scale works were originally scored for orchestra or other instruments but, in wide practice, are performed solely with a keyboard version of the accompaniment.

Hi, I agree that they should be differentiated, but the terminology is confusing: see Sancta Maria, mater Dei, KV 273 (Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart). Why not use "reduction" in its common sense of orchestral reduction and change KbdRed to KbdReh (as in "for rehearsal only")? Richard Mix 23:47, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Richard and I touched upon this subject elsewhere and he reminded me of this discussion. I tend to agree with him about the current terminology being somewhat confusing. —Carlos 19:15, 23 June 2014 (UTC)