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== A ghost page ==
== Add New Work form – Instruments ==


[http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/St_Mark_Passion:_No._22_-_Kreuzige_ihn%21%C2_%28Reinhard_Keiser%29 That one] appears in listings like [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:German_text_requests the one I'm working on], but can't be opened
Hi Carlos, A few minutes ago I used the Add New Work form to create [[Sharon (James P. Carrell)]]. Since it is an ''a cappella'' work, I entered that in the Instruments blank. But when I got to the page, there was an error message across the top, about a missing ) in a Multireplace.php program. The page was created correctly, except Instruments was blank. I tried inserting ''A cappella'' in the Instruments template, but it didn't work, I got the same message. I managed to get around it by typing <tt><noWiki>'''Instruments:'''{{Acap}}</noWiki></tt>, which gave the same result, it appears (the page was added to Category:A cappella). By the way, I looked at Template:Instruments and noticed that it was editable by me; it should be protected, right? (I did not edit it). Anyway, I thought you should know that this happened. Best to you — [[User:Bcjohnston523|Barry Johnston]] [[User talk:Bcjohnston523|(talk)]] 04:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
to rename it (because there is superfluous special character after the '!' in the title) and to add text. Thanks in advance. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] 13:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Barry, thanks for informing me of this. The problem with [[template: Instruments]] seems to be gone, it was just a test by Richard Mix that didn't work out as expected. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 17:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


: Actually, the page in question is a blank page, and the extra character should simply be a space.  The spurious page can be safely deleted.  Something must have gotten fouled up when the work was submitted (I think someone tried to insert a no-break space in the title), and a new page needs to be created with the title as follows: [[St Mark Passion: No. 22 - Kreuzige ihn! (Reinhard Keiser)]]. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 18:01, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
== Monteverdi Magnificat Secondo edition ==


::Hi Claude (and Chuck), I still don't understand why some pages have had their titles messed up with these strange characters. I guess it happened during the migration of the old system to the wiki format, as it seems all pages with such problem are older than that. The page is now available under the corrected title given by Chuck above. The page does indeed exist (that's why it was categorized) but when someone clicks on the malformed title/link, is directed to another page, this one blank. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carlos: After a long period of neglect, someone reminded me that my edition of the Monteverdi Magnificat Secondo is missing a verse. Its CPDL number is 26082.  
I have tried today to upload a complete version--but each time I've tried, the result is still incomplete--on CPDL, that is, but not on my computer.
The initial correct upload is


I can see three of this kind in the [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=ChoralWiki:English_text_requests English text requests] :
What might I be doing wrong?
H: Honeymouth, M: Moonchild, W: Wind, The. Very few indeed, among more than a thousand. Thanks in advance. - [[User:Claude T|Claude]] 17:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Claude (the "Ghost Hunter" :^), the page titles were corrected. I also put the articles in the beginning ("The Wind", etc). Regards and thanks again for the texts you're supplying us with. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)


Many thanks for your help. I added separate files today - and some of it seems to work! I cannot get it to say "Sibelius 5".
Thanks.


== Text when anonymous user tries to edit a page ==
David Cameron [[User:David Cameron|David Cameron]] ([[User talk:David Cameron|talk]]) 19:43, 6 April 2017 (UTC)


Hi Carlos. Currently, when a user who isn't signed in tries to edit a page (ie. click on "View source"), they get the following Mediawiki standard text:
I hadn't given it enough time--seems to be OK now. Sorry to bother you! [[User:David Cameron|David Cameron]] ([[User talk:David Cameron|talk]]) 19:43, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
:You do not have permission to edit pages, for the following reasons:
:*The action you have requested is limited to users in the group Users.
:*You must confirm your e-mail address before editing pages. Please set and validate your e-mail address through your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]].


:You can view and copy the source of this page:
:Hi David, no problem. Yes, it's usually just a browser cache issue. Thanks again for this wonderful edition! :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 18:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
:[page code]


Putting myself in an unregistered user's shoes, I don't think this is a very helpful message - it's potentially quite confusing since it suggests they just need to confirm their email address. Do you agree that it should be changed to something simpler like "You must [[Special:UserLogin|log in]] or register if you wish to edit pages"? Since you have edited Mediawiki standard messages in the past, I thought I'd consult with you before changing this message. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 14:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
== apostrophes in Category names? ==


:Yes Rob, I agree that the message given is not very clear. But in fact this is not one single MediaWiki message, but a combination of three:
Hi Carlos, I got an error message after creating {{CC|St. Peter's Chains}} and for the moment have temporarily renamed it. Is there a workaround? [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 23:03, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
:# [[MediaWiki:Permissionserrorstext-withaction]]
:Hi Richard, what kind of error did you get? I could open the category normally and saw that there is a work already listed in it. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 20:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
:# [[MediaWiki:Badaccess-group1]]
::I wasn't too clear: when I created {{CC|St. Peter's Chains}} that page looked OK but  Category:Sacred music by by season wouldn't load. I've forgotten the exact message but it said something about consulting a manual. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 22:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
:# [[MediaWiki:Confirmedittext]]
::If you move back {{CC|Chains of St. Peter}} or else put back the Cat:Sacred by season on  {{CC|St. Peter's Chains}} you may be able to see what I mean. I didn't want to leave it as it was with the whole {{CC|Sacred music by season}} shut down. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 01:36, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
:I believe you could change the message #2 to the text you suggested, what do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 06:44, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Hi Richard, the problem lies inside the DPL code that was in the category header of Sacred music by season. For the moment I moved that code to [[ChoralWiki:Sacred music by season]] and will see what can be done to fix it. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 03:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC)


::Thanks for those links, Carlos. I've changed the second one as you suggested. I think making the wiki as accessible as possible is very important if we are to encourage new users to contribute. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 13:29, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
== Bug in template PostedOn ==


== Obrigado! ==
Hi Carlos.  I think your 'localizing' the month changes to PostedOn have resulted in an error. Today (October 26th), PostedOn lists my score [[A Hymn for St Cecilia (Charles H. Giffen)]], but the score was posted on September 26th, not October 26th.  The problem is that I also posted editions for the instrumental parts on October 1st, and that seems to have fooled the template PostedOn, which looks at the posting day (26) for one edition and the month (10) for another edition and decides that a score was posted on 10-26.  I only noticed this because today my work is listed at the beginning of the works posted for today (2018-10-26), since it is first alphabetically.  Here is the result of <nowiki>{{PostedOn|2018-10-26}}</nowiki> (which will probably only be valid for today (or perhaps until the end of the month?).
*{{tl|PostedOn|2018-10-26}}
I'm hesitant to revert your changes, since I'm busy enough today that I won't have time to test any reversion.  Could you check into the problem? Thanks. See you Sunday for the Board meeting!! -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 15:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
:Hi Chuck. You're right, the template tests for the day and the month separately, as far as I can remember. That could potentially give the results you cite, in that very specific situation. There's certainly room for improvement! I'll have a look at it as soon as I can, but feel free to make any corrections if you already envision a solution for it. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 17:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
::Hi again. I've implemented a new system that seems to be working correctly. Thanks for spotting the error! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 14:49, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


Que bom que conseguiu fazer funcionar, mesmo não sendo do jeito esperado... Acho que o que você fez pode servir para resolver um [http://pt.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Discuss%C3%A3o:Sidebar probleminha] parecido que tivemos lá [http://pt.wikibooks.org/ no Wikilivros].
== Statistics of downloads of contributed works ==


Fiquei na dúvida: não seria melhor "Inclua uma partitura" em vez de "[[MediaWiki:Addscores/pt|Inclua '''sua''' partitura]]"? Afinal, não é um projeto só para composições dos colaboradores, já que podemos carregar partituras de compositores renomados... O que acha?
Dear Carlos,


Depois me avise que vou querer ver a tradução da página principal... =D
I was wondering if it were possible for me to see some statistics (downloads etc) of my contributions? I get the occasional question from a user who took the effort to find my contact, but that doesn't give much information.


Um bom fim de semana pra ti! [[User:Heldergeovane|Heldergeovane]] 12:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Grateful for your advice.


== Filling the Recent changes list ==
Wim Looyestijn (wim.looyestijn@planet.nl)[[User:Wim Looyestijn|Wim Looyestijn]] ([[User talk:Wim Looyestijn|talk]]) 07:37, 16 October 2019 (UTC)


Carlos! You said you wouldn't fill the recent changes with text replaces! Could you mark the latest ones as bot edits or something please?! Thank you! --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 22:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Wim Looyestijn|Wim]], unfortunately we don't have that feature on CPDL, sorry! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 16:27, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
:Ok, but the replaces are still under way! lol. As soon as it finishes I'll hide them. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 22:34, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


== Motets? ==
== Status 'incompleted' ==


Hi Carlos, I visited my watchlist page and I noted that text replace has categorized as "motets" works that, in my opinion (but please note that I never received any music education), are difficult to classify as such (e.g., "Vesperae Solennes de Confessore" by Mozart, "Gloria" by Vivaldi, etc.). Maybe text replace is also replacing something that shouldn't be replaced? Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 20:55, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carlos,  
:Hi Max, these last changes made via ReplaceText were just to replace unformatted text with their template counterpart. No logic was involved to analyze the works, so none of them was "recategorized". See [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Laudate_Dominum_%28Wolfgang_Amadeus_Mozart%29&diff=prev&oldid=202336 here] and [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Gloria%2C_RV_589_%28Antonio_Vivaldi%29&diff=201972&oldid=199062 here] to understand what I mean. These works were classified as Motets by the person who created the pages, or by someone else in a later time, but not by ReplaceText itself. Of course the correctness of this categorization can always be discussed with the editors of the works. Regards —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 21:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::You're right Carlos, I was mislead by the way the replacement is made. Quite strange that such works were categorized as motets, but this is a different discussion. Keep up with the good work. Max a.k.a. [[User:Choralia|Choralia]] 22:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


== Dutch score submission guide ==
Thanks for catching Category:Requests Available at IMSLP! To answer [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Request:Christmas_Oratorio_(Camille_Saint-Saëns)&curid=19695&diff=1248477&oldid=1248437 this question], The Oratorio is available only in excerpts on CPDL, but complete at IMSLP. In decluttering Category:Requested, I've hesitated in some cases where it seems desirable to me to have the complete work available in the future, or where I myself might prefer a different format. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 01:09, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Carlos. I may be wrong, but I think something has gone wrong in the Dutch score submission guide, in the section where users are referred to the Composter Template.  The reference doesn't appear as a link, so I gather there is a coding error?  Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 15:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Richard! I noticed that you've been doing a great work in sorting out the requests, way to go! Regarding the ''completeness'' of a request, I'm of the opinion that it's 'complete' whenever a page for that work is created on CPDL. If for any reason the editions available here do not cover the whole of the request and IMSLP has a complete edition, that could be informed at the works page, with a link under the "External links" section. This way we'll be helping anyone visiting the works page, not just someone eventually consulting the request page. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 01:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
:Hi Joachim, thanks for warning me of this problem; the Composer template had been renamed, and when the links to it were updated an extra space was introduced by mistake. It's fixed now. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 16:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Fair enough as a traffic directing strategy; how would one have dealt with [[Request:Agnus Dei from Missa L'homme armé (Guillaume Dufay)]]? I guess I've used Template:IncompleteEdition before as a sort of request on my own behalf, but no one has ever taken the hint ;-) [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 01:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Does IMSLP have the complete work? If so, a link to it could be added at the works page. Additionally, a note can be added at the request page informing this. Anyway, three movements is already better than nothing :) (thanks for the new edition, BTW!) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 02:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


== Creative Commons links ==
== Internet links within Template braces ==


Hi Carlos. I noticed that you made some changes to the [[ChoralWiki:Creative Commons|Creative Commons copyright page]]. The [[Template:CopyCC|associated template]] works by linking to the appropriate title on the copyright page but these links don't work if the titles are removed, as they are now. Do you think it would be good to reintroduce these titles? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 17:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carlos!  I am working though a lot of work pages, and along the way trying to update  <tt><nowiki>'''External websites:''' <text></nowiki></tt>  to  {{tl|ExtWeb|<text>}}. I find that I am unable to embed certain urls within the braces; neither can I embed thinks like <tt><nowiki>{{IMSLP2|<IMSPL page>}}</nowiki></tt>. I can't seem to find a character that would cause a problem, but I haven't yet checked all strings of characters. I have discovered that I can put the url within <u>double</u> brackets (<nowiki>[[<url>]]</nowiki>) as a workaround, but that seems like a lot of work, and looks strange. Examples at [[Ach Gott, wem soll ichs klagen (Wolfgang Grefinger)]] and [[Ala guerra, ala guerra (Bartolomeo Tromboncino)]]. Do you have any suggestions?


:Hi Rob, I'm sorry, I had no idea that the template was so closely dependant upon the page structure. Having a second look at the page, though, I noticed that it's so short in content that even if we restore the titles as before, most of them will never scroll to the top of the page when selected. Anyway, I'll see what can be done. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 04:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Or maybe I should write code for Template:{{tl|ExtWeb}} to take care of this situation? Thanks! — [[User:BarryJ|Barry Johnston]] [[User talk:BarryJ|(talk)]] 17:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
::OK no problem. Thanks for the alteration. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 22:15, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


== "Instruments" template ==
:Hi Barry! I'm still trying to figure out what's the advantage of using this new template. As I understood it, it just encapsulates the text that is passed as parameter (in this case, one or more links). But why should we abandon a template such as IMSLP2, for instance, in favor of ExtWeb, as was done [https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ach_Gott,_wem_soll_ichs_klagen_(Wolfgang_Grefinger)&diff=1340040&oldid=1268264 here]? Sorry for asking, maybe you're planning some kind of automation that I'm not aware of, and this is just the first step of the process.
:Regarding the technical problem you cite, the solution is simple, although not very elegant: if a parameter contains an equal sign, it causes the MediaWiki to think that everything before the = is a named parameter. To avoid it, we have to add ourselves a numbered parameter, as I did [https://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ach_Gott,_wem_soll_ichs_klagen_(Wolfgang_Grefinger)&diff=1340205&oldid=1340040 here] by adding {{para|1}}. The <code>&lt;nowiki /></code> part corrects another known MediaWiki bug related to the display of bulleted lists inside templates. Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 02:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)


Hi Carlos. You used [[Template:Instruments]] on [[Wehmut (Franz Schubert)|this page]] but it hasn't categorised the score page in the appropriate category (as far as I can tell). I appreciate that this template is in the testing stages, but perhaps it would be better to test it on sandbox pages and use the templates that work correctly on actual score pages? What are your intentions for [[Template:Instruments]]? Presumably just the idea to use one template rather than 10 or 20? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small>
== Ma bouche rit ==


:Hi Rob, you're right. I expected the template code would be ready sooner so that the results could be judged by the other admins. But since the template in its current situation doesn't disrupt visually the work page, I ask you to wait a few more days before removing it or replacing it with other accompaniment templates. As you probably are aware of, there are many hundreds (if not thousands) of works which haven't yet received any accompaniment templates, and my idea is to make this process somewhat simpler. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 18:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carlos,


:: I think that probably there should be some wider discussion of just what else might (or might not) be put into this new {{CiteTemp|Instruments}} template. And probably this discussion should come before, not after, the template is in more-or-less final form.  I know that I have my own thoughts on the matter. Or, perhaps Carlos has some sort of large-scale changes in mind, in which case we should be made aware of them anyway for comments and suggestions. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 19:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Just wanting to confirm that [[Ma bouche rit (Johannes Ockeghem)]] is a withdrawn edition, File:Ma bouche rit.pdf being a somewhat ambiguous filename which seems not to have been replaced. Cheers, [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 21:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)


:::Well guys, the template is ready, as I roughly planned it. Please feel free to discuss it, change it at will or simply not use it at all. As you probably noticed, I prefer to present solutions first and discuss them later. If the presented solutions are rejected, no problem at all with me, I'm also learning a lot in the process of developing them. :) —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Richard! I'm a bit puzzled by this situation... why did I delete the files and keep the edition unchanged? That's strange indeed. I found Benjamin Stone's withdrawal request at the forums: [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8706&p=23289]. Maybe I was in a hurry at the moment and just plain forgot to return to this matter later. I just removed the links from the edition, thanks for bringing this to my attention. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 15:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)


::::Fair enough, Carlos. It's nice to know what's going on in your head sometimes! Let's start up some discussion somewhere else. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 22:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
== Missing form and uploads ==


== Wikipedia links ==
Hi Carlos: I'm afraid that I have botched something somewhere, though maybe with the help of a technical glitch.


Thank you for invitation here at CPDL. Also your information certainly helped me to clarify some details. --[[User:Tomaxer|Tomaxer]] 10:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Yesterday (19 July 2021) I tried to add a new score ("Blow, winds of God") to my list. I opened up the Add Work Form, made some of the preliminary entries, and moved to upload (1) a pdf file ("Blow, winds of God.pdf") and (2) a Finale file ("Blow, winds of God.musX"). I then returned to the Add Work Form, completed it and submitted it.


== Thank you for you welcome ==
At once I received two error messages, first the old one which claims that <charles.david.cameron@gmail.com> isn't a valid address, adding this time that my name was wrong too; and then a message that the system had stalled, and might be available later. I copied this material and sent it to all of you admins, as you know.


Carlos - thanks for your welcome to CPDL. I am planning to go through the scores with errors and submit the new, corrected editions. If you could help with a page move (because of my clumsiness), I would really appreciate it. [[User:Freedomlinux|Freedomlinux]] 02:02, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Today I can't find anything from yesterday; no uploads, no incomplete Add Work Form, not even my report (I suspect that I'm looking in the wrong place).
How much you admins. must shudder at the technical illiteracy of us computer users who don't understand anything under the hood--I'm sorry!


== Sua conta ==
But I have no idea how to proceed now, and I do want to post the piece. Thanks in advance for your help.


É impressão minha ou você moveu apenas a sua página de usuário para outro nome, sem renomear a sua conta "efetivamente"? É que eu achei estranho não aparecer mais o link [[Special:Contributions/Carlos|Contribuições do usuário]]. Se não me engano você tem como renomear a conta, pois [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&username=&group=bureaucrat&limit=50 é um dos burocratas]. [[User:Heldergeovane|Heldergeovane]] 16:19, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
[[User:David Cameron|David Cameron]] ([[User talk:David Cameron|talk]]) 15:47, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
:Oi Helder, não sei se entendi bem sua dúvida, mas se você está falando da página [[User:Carlos Augusto Mourão]], ela não é uma página de usuário de verdade, mas sim uma página de "contribuidor" como falam aqui na CPDL. A página da minha conta mesmo é a [[User:Carlos]], que redireciona para a outra.
:Hi, David, thanks for your contributions! I suppose that you're known here under an email address at queensu.ca. Your two files are already present on our servers. Please fill the AddWork form as yesterday, using your previous address. (I haven't received any mail yesterday). By the way, you could spare a bit of my time uploading an MXL (compressed MusicXML) file in lieu of the .musx one, to allow users using MuseScore, Sibelius or Capella to use your file. [[User:Claude T|Claude]] ([[User talk:Claude T|talk]]) 16:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
:A propósito, você já viu a sugestão que dei ao "probleminha" que você citou em sua outra mensagem mais acima? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 20:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
::Era essa página mesmo... Mas se era o esperado, tudo bem... =)
::Ahh.. sobre o probleminha, eu tinha vindo aqui justamente procurar/descobrir onde foi q vc deixou aquele comentário, pois eu tinha lido ele, mas agora não sei onde foi... =/ [[User:Heldergeovane|Heldergeovane]] 21:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Obrigado por me lembrar da possível solução [http://pt.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_Discuss%C3%A3o%3ASidebar&diff=124304&oldid=124259 solução]... Assim que der, faremos o teste lá no Wikilivros... [[User:Heldergeovane|Heldergeovane]] 13:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


== Change in policy ==
::Hello guys, sorry for the belated reply. David, I see that you've managed to create a page for [[Blow, winds of God (David Cameron)|Blow, winds of God]] already, with Claude's gracious help. Way to go! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 19:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)


Hi Carlos. In [http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Franz_Schubert&curid=2620&diff=207981&oldid=206461 this edit] you missed off the score link. Has there been a change in policy since I was last here? ;-) Not trying to trip you up - did you just forget? I've added it anyway. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 15:31, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
== Brazilian sacred publications ==
:No Rob, I deliberately leave these links off as I think it's an unnecessary double work that over time leads to numerous inconsistencies on the composer pages, besides making them too cluttered with icons. I've proposed more than once that this policy be changed, but while a consensus is not reached, I don't mind if others include the missing links (thank you for that).
:I particularly think we should use the precious time dedicated to CPDL to accomplish nobler tasks, as helping people publish their files uploaded long ago (you know there are hundreds of editions that were "lost behind", as the one just published). A change in the Add Work process is also something that I consider urgent, if we want to somehow stop this hemorrhagy of editions that are sent but never get published. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 15:58, 1 June 2009 (UTC)


:: I'm not taking sides, here, but just adding what little I know about the situation.  For what it's worth, since the add scores form includes score icons, I would guess that ''current policy'' (and policy/practice that has been in effect since the inception of {{CW}}) indicates that score icons/links should be included (where there is just one edition) ... Raf and others argued that we should reduce the number of "clicks" to get to the sheet music.  I suggest that perhaps we need to (re)open this policy topic ... preferably at the forums. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 17:17, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Carlos!


:::Chuck, I agree that it would be a good thing if we could discuss this at the forums, hopefully with the presence of the other admins so that we could also hear their opinions and eventually reach a reasonable compromise. Another unfortunate decision that Raf Ornes took long ago that is also very inefficient in terms of the wiki system is the way files are linked today. When we link a file like this [{{filepath:Schu-Zwe.pdf}} {{pdf}}] instead of like this [[media:Schu-Zwe.pdf|PDF]], the wiki system is unable to create a relationship between the page and the file, and we are unable to know what files are linked, and where they are linked. That's why at Wikipedia this kind of linking is totally discouraged. For this, an alternative would be to always use a template to link to local files, and make this template at the same time display an icon and create an invisible link to the file. More food for thought. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 06:01, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I have been trying to help [[User:Catuí Côrte-Real Suarez]] with three publications, including [[Harpa de Sião]], [[Cecília]], and [[Magnificat, coletânea de cantos litúrgicos]]. But I have run into some difficulty with a recently-created publication, [[Harpa de Sião: suplemento]] – I don't have access to early editions of this book, apparently very popular in Brasil. I feel like the two pages for ''Harpa de Sião'' should be one page, but I don't know how to combine them: the situation with all the editions is a mystery to me. Do you have suggestions? — [[User:BarryJ|Barry Johnston]] [[User talk:BarryJ|(talk)]] 16:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
:Hi Barry! A belated Happy New Year! :) I need to get acquainted with this subject first, will inform you about whatever I find, ok? Regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 16:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
::Thanks Carlos! And a belated Happy New Year to you. Sounds good, I will wait to see what you find. — [[User:BarryJ|Barry Johnston]] [[User talk:BarryJ|(talk)]] 18:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
:::Hi again, Barry. From what I could see, the [[Harpa de Sião: suplemento|supplement]] could very well be on the same page of the main publication. Note that this was done at [[IMSLP: Harpa de Sião (Lehmann, Padre João Baptista)]]. We could maybe create a new section and move the supplement under it, what do you think? I'm still in doubt if this supplement belongs to the 1st or 3rd edition, so I wrote Catuí asking for clarification. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 01:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
::::Hi Barry, I talked with Catuí and he explained to me that the Supplement is an independent book; that was the reason why he put it on a separate page. But he wouldn't mind if the pages are eventually merged. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 00:12, 20 January 2023 (UTC)


::::Carlos, until such discussion has begun and been concluded, please respect the standards currently in place regarding score links on composer pages. I have just added links to [[Cristian Gentilini]]. I would like to discuss any possible reform of this area but until we've reached a consensus, we need to keep things consistent. --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 16:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
== Pone luctum ==


:::::''"we need to keep things consistent"'' — Wow, that'd be great! Then please go across all 1,464 composer pages and verify each of their works pages to make sure that all icons on the composer page are "consistent" with the policy. ;^) (You see what I mean? Consistency is simply impossible under the current policy.) Now being serious, I see your point, and will abstain to create new works pages until this subject is thoroughly discussed on the forums. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 16:22, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Christ is risen! I would like to ask about the real Composer of tune "Pone luctum, sume vestem", if he is known? There are two persons with the same last name "Mohr", but with different first names: Joseph Franz and Joseph Hermann. Both of them are born after 1750, when probably the tune was composed and can't be a Composer of this tune. Joseph Franz Mohr was text author of some Hymns, but Joseph Hermann Mohr was known as composer of many Latin Hymns (tunes). In edited of Hermann Mohr "Cantiones Sacrae" in 1878 there is his arranged hymn "Pone luctum, sume vestem" under nr. 71 on the page 170 of downloadable PDF file: https://ia801605.us.archive.org/12/items/cantionessacrae00mohrgoog/cantionessacrae00mohrgoog.pdf That arrangement is different from the present edition of Rev. Abel Di Marco on CPDL page, where as Composer is indicated Joseph Franz Mohr. The same harmonization is on the page of "Cappella Gregoriana" of Rev. Abel Di Marco, but with alternative file: https://cappellagregoriana.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pone-luctum.pdf , where is indicated a Composer J. B. C. Schmidts and arranger Joseph Hermann Mohr. However that version is different from Joseph Hermann Mohr's arrangement in "Cantiones Sacrae". To whom belong the harmonization, edited by Rev. Abel Di Marco?? Is it his proper harmonization? I think that it is a misattribution of Composer name to Joseph Franz Mohr, as we have indication of harmonizer Joseph Hermann Mohr. The real Composer of tune may be remain unknown!?! [[User:Andris Solims|Andris Solims]] ([[User talk:Andris Solims|talk]]) 14:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Andris Solims
 
:Hello Mr Solims! Sorry that I can't be of any help to you on this, my knowledge on the subject is quite limited. Kind regards, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]] [[User talk:Carlos|(talk)]] 01:34, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
::::::I agree that things certainly aren't consistent at the moment. And whilst I appreciate you're not being entirely serious Carlos, I feel I need to explain my rationale for why I don't (or haven't yet) gone through every composer page and checked them. Basically, it's to do with acts and omissions. If I'm editing a score page for one reason or another, I will endeavour to correct any other problems with it even though I'm editing it for a different reason. But if I don't come to a page to edit it, I won't correct any minor inconsistencies, such as an incorrect listing of the number of editions of any of the works listed there. However, if I edit a page and deliberately fail to correct a serious problem that I notice (or at least flag it up with the cleanup template), then I fall short of my editing standards.
::::::But '''please don't stop''' adding works from the add works email output. While I'm taking my exams, I can't keep up to date with all the latest submissions so I'd really appreciate it if you could just carry on adding works in line with the current standards until we figure out if (and if so, how) we're going to change them. Is that OK? --[[User:Bobnotts|Bobnotts]] <small>[[User talk:Bobnotts|'''talk''']]</small> 09:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:::: Carlos & Rob.  I'm pretty sure that the original reason for links being constructed as external links like the {{pdf}} link Carlos cites (but originally icons were not used) instead of internal wiki hyperlinks of the form <tt><nowiki>[[media:Schu-Zwe.pdf|PDF]]</nowiki></tt> was that, at the Stanford site, Raf had set things up so that clicking on an external link would open up a new browser page.  This facility(?) was lost when we migrated {{CW}} to new servers.  I almost said something about it then, but then read up a little and found that such new browser window action is generally to be deprecated now.  Since then, I've had no problem right-clicking and selecting "open in a new window" or "open in a new tab", so it no longer bothers me.  All this suggests that it might be wise to convert back to internal links (for files hosted here).  We would have to abandon the traditional use of clicking on icons in the process, but we might try something of the form {{pdf}}[[media:Schu-Zwe.pdf|PDF]] ... <tt><nowiki>[[media:Schu-Zwe.pdf|PDF]]{{pdf}}</nowiki></tt>. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 12:34, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Category:Files ==
 
Hi Carlos, I really like what you did with creating the subcategories of {{CiteCat|Files}}.  Thanks for doing this! -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 17:27, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:Well Chuck, in fact I thought that the category system would work better, but couldn't find any simple way to add the categories  using the bot. There is a semi-automated way: to copy all filenames from, say, [[ChoralWiki:MID]] and paste them on a document as a list, so that the bot may read from it and categorize the files properly. I made such test to populate [[:Category:MID]], but am still not sure which presentation is better. What do you think? —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 06:25, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Search engine Dutch translation ==
 
Hi Carlos, underneath is the Dutch translation of the search engine manual. Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]]
 
:Kies voor één of meerdere categorieën de gewenste optie in het uitrolmenu, en klik daarna één maal op <b>List works</b> om de titels van de stukken te zien te krijgen (momenteel krijgt u slechts 200 titels te zien).
:Hoe meer categorieën u benut, hoe specifieker de zoekopdracht en hoe minder werken u als oplossing te zien krijgt.  Wil u een categorie niet langer opnemen in de zoekopdracht, dan kiest u terug de blanco optie in het uitrolmenu.
:(*)in de optie Number of voices (stemmenaantal) moet u ook een bezetting kiezen.
 
<b>Update</b> Hi Carlos, this is the translation of the remaining items. [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]]
 
1= *Geen resultaten gevonden|
2= Specifieer een <b>Bezetting</b> of deselecteer <b>Stemmenaantal</b>|
3= Gelieve minstens één categorie te selecteren|
5= Categorieën|
6= Genre|
7= Religieuze muziek|
8= Profane muziek|
9= Subgenre|
10= Liturgisch gebruik|
11= Stemmenaantal*|
12= 1 stem (unisono)|
13= 2 stemmen|
14= 3 stemmen|
15= 4 stemmen|
16= 5 stemmen|
17= 6 stemmen|
18= 7 stemmen|
19= 8 stemmen|
20= 9 stemmen|
21= 10 stemmen|
42= 11 stemmen|
22= 12 stemmen|
23= 13 tot 15 stemmen|
24= 16 of meer stemmen|
25= Bezetting|
26= Solo|
27= Koorsolo|
28= Muzikale periode|
29= Middeleeuwse musiek|
30= Renaissancemuziek|
31= Barokmuziek|
32= Klassieke music|
33= Romantische music|
34= Vroeg-20e eeuwse muziek|
35= Hedendaagse muziek|
36= Taal|
37= Begeleiding|
38= Geef titels weer|
39= Wis gegevens|
40= Nog geen resultaten|
41= Resultaten
 
== website victoria change  ==
 
Hi Carlos.  Unfortunately, you changed the Victoria link at {{CiteTemp|Website}} without checking that all the links for Victoria scores originally pointed to the partituras.html subpage where Victoria's works are listed - and there are navigation instructions for finding those scores in the Edition notes of each of the Nancho Alvarez editions of Victoria's works.  These will now have to be changed or else the individual links on Victoria pages changed to something along the lines of <tt><nowiki>{{website|victoria}}/partituras.html</nowiki></tt>.  I'm guessing you made the change because of the Guerrero and Morales pages, as well as the Otras Partituras page.  But this now, shallow linking upsets the previous less-than-shallow linking we previously have always had for Victoria scores. I'm willing to insert "/partituras.html" into each of the links necessary, and even to insert "/guerrero.html", "/morales.html", and "varios.html" for the other instances necessary ... but I think it will take some time to track these down.  Perhaps a better solution might have been to leave the victoria field of {{CiteTemp|website}} as it is and add extra fields, perhaps of the form vict-guerrero, vict-morales, vict-various for links to these other pages.  What do you think? Which is easier?  I don't want to lose the careful instructions for finding Victoria scores. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 03:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Chuck, the necessary replaces were already done! :) (you probably haven't seen them because they were marked as 'bot' so as not to fill up the Recent changes page). This morning when I noticed that many pages were still pointing to the old site, my first reaction was to add the new site to the template Website. Then I saw that it was already there, but pointing exclusively to the Victoria's subpage. I had three choices: 1.Leave the field for "Victoria" intact and create new fields "Victoria2", "Victoria3" for the other subpages on that site (as you also suggested); 2.Change the entry to link to a higher level and then use it for all subpages; 3. Simply update the links in work pages without using the template Webpage. I initially opted for this third alternative, and made the following replaces:
:*"http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/mas_partituras.html#" to "http://www.uma.es/victoria/varios.html#" (27 select replaces)
:*"http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/mas_partituras.html#morales" to "http://www.uma.es/victoria/morales.html" (5 replaces)
:At this point I realized that this was not going to be the best solution, and decided for the 2nd alternative instead. I then changed the template Website and continued with the following replaces:
:*"<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}" to "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}/partituras.html" (117 replaces)
:*"http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/partituras.html" to "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}/partituras.html" (63 replaces)
:*"http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/mas_partituras.html" to "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}/guerrero.html" (54 select replaces)
:*"http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/varios.html" to "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}/varios.html" (2 replaces)
:*"http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/mas_partituras.html" to "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}/varios.html" (1 replace)
:And finally, converted the remaining new links to also use the template:
:*"http://www.uma.es/victoria" to "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>website|Victoria}}" (35 replaces)
:I tried to be as carefull as possible, but didn't remember to check the instructions on the score pages. I suppose that at least the instructions for Victoria's works are still valid, because these links haven't changed effectively. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 05:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:: Hi Carlos.  I'm sorry that I didn't see you did exactly what I was thinking of- yesterday I only saw this last night after a very very long day returning from the hospital where my father-in-law had heart surgery (successful!). I had seen problems early yesterday morning when I was working on Guerrero, merging pages with the scores for the same works.  When I saw the template changes last night, I simply jumped to the conclusion that there was still work to be done!!  Actually, what prompted this was my simply going to the Victoria page and clicking on the net icon for ''Missa Pro Victoria'' on that page - which sends me to the http://www.uma.es/victoria/ main page, not to ~/partituras.html - so I figured the Victoria work pages were in the same state, and that's when I wrote you the message here.  When I saw your reply, I went back to the Victoria page and checked - one is still sent to the main page, not the partituras page!!  So I looked at the code on the Victoria page and see that all those links use {{CiteTemp|LnkWeb}}, thereby "covertly" sneaking past the "bot" edits you did (LOL)!  I guess we'll have to change those links, too. Again, sorry for the confusion and thanks for making all the changes you did already. -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 11:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Hi Chuck, I had forgotten about LnkWeb; have just done the replaces required in the Victoria page.
:::PS: Hope your father-in-law recovers promptly! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 
:::: Wow, thanks Carlos! -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 11:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== solo SATB category, etc. ==
 
{{ItemPost|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 06:12, 18 June 2009 (UTC)|text=
Hi, Carlos--would you mind discussing the [[Category:Solo_SATB]] and similar categories a bit?
 
I have a vague concern that it creates a duplicate hierarchy for someone to look through, both SATB and solo SATB when they have one of each voice type. It's not that I think there aren't differentiating factors that are clear, but I also worry that there are some that may be fuzzy and might result in works being categorized unexpectedly. Admittedly, I sing mostly Renaissance and modern music where this isn't as likely to be an issue as with Baroque through Romantic, for example. I'd like to understand better what would account for whether a song gets slotted into the solo SATB versus the SATB category and how to make sure users are aware of both types if needed and don't have to duplicate look-ups first on one and then the other.
 
Can you help explain what the differentiating factor would be for when something falls into one category versus the other? Composer's specification? Other factors? Tx.
}}
:Hi Vaarky, you have probably seen this category among the ones created by me yesterday. In fact these were created for works pages that were already categorized in them, so that these categories might show up in the {{CiteCW|Multi-Category Search}}. The missing categories were found in [[Special:WantedCategories]]. I can't discuss the merit of whether the works in them were correctly categorized or not; I just trusted in what the creators/editors of these works pages specified. I agree that "Solo SATB" may be a bit confusing to a new user, but according to the current standard followed at CPDL, I understand it means that it's a work for 4 soloists, voiced SATB, and no choir. You probably remember that there was a topic on this subject at the forums some time ago; if you prefer we may continue the discussion there: [http://forums.cpdl.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=4352 Solo voice categories]. Thanks, —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 07:16, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Confusion with Template:LastName in DEFAULTSORT ==
 
Hi Carlos.  I've run into several instances of users replacing "LastName" with the composer's last name in [[Template:Composer page]] - eg. something like the most recent <tt><nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:{{Cainer}}}}</nowiki></tt> on the new [[Josef Cainer]] page. I changed the instructions for the Composer page template in an attempt to help users figure out what to do.  But really I think maybe it is the '''name''' of [[Template:LastName]] that is the real source of confusion.  Perhaps we should change "LastName" to something like "NameSorter"? -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 20:10, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:Chuck, thanks for the more detailed instructions, I believe it'll be enough to make users avoid wrongly editing this line. Let's wait a couple of weeks to check, and if these errors continue, we could try the other way around: simply ask users '''not''' to change this line at all. But if you really think that the name is the problem, then I suggest that an alias (redirect) be created pointing to LastName and used in [[Template:Composer page]] in place of LastName. After a few weeks, if no new problems arise, we can then move LastName to the alias name. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 16:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Dutch sites ==
Hi Carlos,  for the multi-category search, I think the best Dutch translation would be <i>zoeken op eigenschappen</i>.  I've tried to follow the instructions you left on my talk page to create the redirect, but I'm afraid even those simple operations are beyond me.
I've noticed Max is working on an Italian translation - I'd be willing to contribute Dutch versions.  Please let me know how to contribute those if you're interested.  Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 08:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
:Hi Joachim, no problem, the redirect was created as you suggested. —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 19:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 
Hi Carlos, I've begun translating the pages you indicated.  When working on [[ChoralWiki:MainAnnouncement/nl]], I was puzzled by the word <i>comment</i> as in <i>comment the box to add an announcement</i>.  Since I don't know what it means in English, I can't translate it into Dutch.  Grateful for a hint, here.  Cordially, [[User:Jkelecom|joachim]] 18:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Banner text ==
 
Hi Carlos,  I just reverted your two edits to the noteperfect banner to one which works for pushing the website info to one line and centering the previous line.  It seems that the banner text does not "know" anything about wiki markup, so nowiki tags, big tags, nbsp's and the like don't work (they are interpreted literally).  Only by directly inserting no-break spaces did I get the result Rod wanted.  And I doubt that there is any way at all of changing font-size or font-weight within a sidebar banner.  I sent Rod a message with a CC to administration@cpdl.org about it.  I think he will be happy enough with the website address on the last line by itself. (added a bit later: Rod liked everything about the banner except the web address, so let's not fiddle with it any more - white on green should stay.) -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 13:12, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 
: Oops, I see you just uploaded a version of the logo with the text included, pretty much as Rod wants it.  Go ahead then and install it. (sorry, we both seem to have been working on it at the same time!) -- [[User:CHGiffen|Chuck]][[User talk:CHGiffen|<sub><small>'''talk'''</small></sub>]]&nbsp;[[User:Charles H. Giffen|Giffen]][[Charles H. Giffen|<sub>'''♫'''</sub>]] 13:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 
::No problem, Chuck. I've just read in the forums that the www.note-perfect.com link wasn't fitting in one single line, and I stranged it because for me the banner text was being displayed more or less the same as it is now inside the image (with the difference of the formatting only). —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 13:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== redirects for user pages using full names ==
 
{{ItemPost|by=[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 15:53, 9 July 2009 (UTC)|text=
Hi, Carlos. When you create user page redirects such as the one for Daharja‎ redirecting to Leanne Daharja Veitch, do you do this for all users who supply a full name, or all users who are also composers and/or editors, or only upon user request? I want to understand better so I can figure out how to address this when writing the privacy policy. Tx!
}}
:Hi Vaarky, I usually do this only when I know that a registered user is also a score editor, in order to create a connection between  their editor page and their registered user account. Another redirect is created from the editor's talk page back to the registered user's talk page so that they may be informed by the wiki system anytime someone leaves them a message. I think there isn't a written rule about this, I learned it from observing what the other admins used to do in these situations. Hope it helps! —[[User:Carlos|Carlos]]&nbsp;[{{carlos}} {{mail}}] 22:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::This sounds like a useful practice. I want to make sure we include mention of it in the privacy policy, so I'm making a note and hope you'll keep an eye out for it too. --[[User:Vaarky|Vaarky]] 02:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== Translation to Spanish ==
 
Well it's all done! :)
Not Argentinian Spanish at all...perfect standard.
It was much easier than what I imagined...
It was so good to help...
I am an artistic painter, a graphic designer and I understand a little of web programming. In the music fields I am a singer (tenor training to counter-tenor), copyist and publisher, being my most  beloved styles everything that goes until baroque period ..So whatever you need a volunteer for...just knock on my door...
Thank you! ...[[User:Saniakob|Saniakob]] 06:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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Hi Carlos, A few minutes ago I used the Add New Work form to create Sharon (James P. Carrell). Since it is an a cappella work, I entered that in the Instruments blank. But when I got to the page, there was an error message across the top, about a missing ) in a Multireplace.php program. The page was created correctly, except Instruments was blank. I tried inserting A cappella in the Instruments template, but it didn't work, I got the same message. I managed to get around it by typing '''Instruments:'''{{Acap}}, which gave the same result, it appears (the page was added to Category:A cappella). By the way, I looked at Template:Instruments and noticed that it was editable by me; it should be protected, right? (I did not edit it). Anyway, I thought you should know that this happened. Best to you — Barry Johnston (talk) 04:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Barry, thanks for informing me of this. The problem with template: Instruments seems to be gone, it was just a test by Richard Mix that didn't work out as expected. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 17:50, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Monteverdi Magnificat Secondo edition

Hi Carlos: After a long period of neglect, someone reminded me that my edition of the Monteverdi Magnificat Secondo is missing a verse. Its CPDL number is 26082. I have tried today to upload a complete version--but each time I've tried, the result is still incomplete--on CPDL, that is, but not on my computer. The initial correct upload is

What might I be doing wrong?

Thanks.

David Cameron David Cameron (talk) 19:43, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I hadn't given it enough time--seems to be OK now. Sorry to bother you! David Cameron (talk) 19:43, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi David, no problem. Yes, it's usually just a browser cache issue. Thanks again for this wonderful edition! :) —Carlos (talk) 18:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

apostrophes in Category names?

Hi Carlos, I got an error message after creating St. Peter's Chains and for the moment have temporarily renamed it. Is there a workaround? Richard Mix (talk) 23:03, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Richard, what kind of error did you get? I could open the category normally and saw that there is a work already listed in it. —Carlos (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
I wasn't too clear: when I created St. Peter's Chains that page looked OK but Category:Sacred music by by season wouldn't load. I've forgotten the exact message but it said something about consulting a manual. Richard Mix (talk) 22:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
If you move back Chains of St. Peter or else put back the Cat:Sacred by season on St. Peter's Chains you may be able to see what I mean. I didn't want to leave it as it was with the whole Sacred music by season shut down. Richard Mix (talk) 01:36, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Richard, the problem lies inside the DPL code that was in the category header of Sacred music by season. For the moment I moved that code to ChoralWiki:Sacred music by season and will see what can be done to fix it. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 03:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Bug in template PostedOn

Hi Carlos. I think your 'localizing' the month changes to PostedOn have resulted in an error. Today (October 26th), PostedOn lists my score A Hymn for St Cecilia (Charles H. Giffen), but the score was posted on September 26th, not October 26th. The problem is that I also posted editions for the instrumental parts on October 1st, and that seems to have fooled the template PostedOn, which looks at the posting day (26) for one edition and the month (10) for another edition and decides that a score was posted on 10-26. I only noticed this because today my work is listed at the beginning of the works posted for today (2018-10-26), since it is first alphabetically. Here is the result of {{PostedOn|2018-10-26}} (which will probably only be valid for today (or perhaps until the end of the month?).

I'm hesitant to revert your changes, since I'm busy enough today that I won't have time to test any reversion. Could you check into the problem? Thanks. See you Sunday for the Board meeting!! -- Chucktalk Giffen♫ 15:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Chuck. You're right, the template tests for the day and the month separately, as far as I can remember. That could potentially give the results you cite, in that very specific situation. There's certainly room for improvement! I'll have a look at it as soon as I can, but feel free to make any corrections if you already envision a solution for it. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 17:23, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi again. I've implemented a new system that seems to be working correctly. Thanks for spotting the error! —Carlos (talk) 14:49, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Statistics of downloads of contributed works

Dear Carlos,

I was wondering if it were possible for me to see some statistics (downloads etc) of my contributions? I get the occasional question from a user who took the effort to find my contact, but that doesn't give much information.

Grateful for your advice.

Wim Looyestijn (wim.looyestijn@planet.nl)Wim Looyestijn (talk) 07:37, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Wim, unfortunately we don't have that feature on CPDL, sorry! —Carlos (talk) 16:27, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Status 'incompleted'

Hi Carlos,

Thanks for catching Category:Requests Available at IMSLP! To answer this question, The Oratorio is available only in excerpts on CPDL, but complete at IMSLP. In decluttering Category:Requested, I've hesitated in some cases where it seems desirable to me to have the complete work available in the future, or where I myself might prefer a different format. Richard Mix (talk) 01:09, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi Richard! I noticed that you've been doing a great work in sorting out the requests, way to go! Regarding the completeness of a request, I'm of the opinion that it's 'complete' whenever a page for that work is created on CPDL. If for any reason the editions available here do not cover the whole of the request and IMSLP has a complete edition, that could be informed at the works page, with a link under the "External links" section. This way we'll be helping anyone visiting the works page, not just someone eventually consulting the request page. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 01:24, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough as a traffic directing strategy; how would one have dealt with Request:Agnus Dei from Missa L'homme armé (Guillaume Dufay)? I guess I've used Template:IncompleteEdition before as a sort of request on my own behalf, but no one has ever taken the hint ;-) Richard Mix (talk) 01:49, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Does IMSLP have the complete work? If so, a link to it could be added at the works page. Additionally, a note can be added at the request page informing this. Anyway, three movements is already better than nothing :) (thanks for the new edition, BTW!) —Carlos (talk) 02:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Internet links within Template braces

Hi Carlos! I am working though a lot of work pages, and along the way trying to update '''External websites:''' <text> to {{ExtWeb|<text>}}. I find that I am unable to embed certain urls within the braces; neither can I embed thinks like {{IMSLP2|<IMSPL page>}}. I can't seem to find a character that would cause a problem, but I haven't yet checked all strings of characters. I have discovered that I can put the url within double brackets ([[<url>]]) as a workaround, but that seems like a lot of work, and looks strange. Examples at Ach Gott, wem soll ichs klagen (Wolfgang Grefinger) and Ala guerra, ala guerra (Bartolomeo Tromboncino). Do you have any suggestions?

Or maybe I should write code for Template:{{ExtWeb}} to take care of this situation? Thanks! — Barry Johnston (talk) 17:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Hi Barry! I'm still trying to figure out what's the advantage of using this new template. As I understood it, it just encapsulates the text that is passed as parameter (in this case, one or more links). But why should we abandon a template such as IMSLP2, for instance, in favor of ExtWeb, as was done here? Sorry for asking, maybe you're planning some kind of automation that I'm not aware of, and this is just the first step of the process.
Regarding the technical problem you cite, the solution is simple, although not very elegant: if a parameter contains an equal sign, it causes the MediaWiki to think that everything before the = is a named parameter. To avoid it, we have to add ourselves a numbered parameter, as I did here by adding |1=. The <nowiki /> part corrects another known MediaWiki bug related to the display of bulleted lists inside templates. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 02:40, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Ma bouche rit

Hi Carlos,

Just wanting to confirm that Ma bouche rit (Johannes Ockeghem) is a withdrawn edition, File:Ma bouche rit.pdf being a somewhat ambiguous filename which seems not to have been replaced. Cheers, Richard Mix (talk) 21:26, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Richard! I'm a bit puzzled by this situation... why did I delete the files and keep the edition unchanged? That's strange indeed. I found Benjamin Stone's withdrawal request at the forums: [1]. Maybe I was in a hurry at the moment and just plain forgot to return to this matter later. I just removed the links from the edition, thanks for bringing this to my attention. —Carlos (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Missing form and uploads

Hi Carlos: I'm afraid that I have botched something somewhere, though maybe with the help of a technical glitch.

Yesterday (19 July 2021) I tried to add a new score ("Blow, winds of God") to my list. I opened up the Add Work Form, made some of the preliminary entries, and moved to upload (1) a pdf file ("Blow, winds of God.pdf") and (2) a Finale file ("Blow, winds of God.musX"). I then returned to the Add Work Form, completed it and submitted it.

At once I received two error messages, first the old one which claims that <charles.david.cameron@gmail.com> isn't a valid address, adding this time that my name was wrong too; and then a message that the system had stalled, and might be available later. I copied this material and sent it to all of you admins, as you know.

Today I can't find anything from yesterday; no uploads, no incomplete Add Work Form, not even my report (I suspect that I'm looking in the wrong place). How much you admins. must shudder at the technical illiteracy of us computer users who don't understand anything under the hood--I'm sorry!

But I have no idea how to proceed now, and I do want to post the piece. Thanks in advance for your help.

David Cameron (talk) 15:47, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi, David, thanks for your contributions! I suppose that you're known here under an email address at queensu.ca. Your two files are already present on our servers. Please fill the AddWork form as yesterday, using your previous address. (I haven't received any mail yesterday). By the way, you could spare a bit of my time uploading an MXL (compressed MusicXML) file in lieu of the .musx one, to allow users using MuseScore, Sibelius or Capella to use your file. Claude (talk) 16:43, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Hello guys, sorry for the belated reply. David, I see that you've managed to create a page for Blow, winds of God already, with Claude's gracious help. Way to go! —Carlos (talk) 19:54, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Brazilian sacred publications

Hi Carlos!

I have been trying to help User:Catuí Côrte-Real Suarez with three publications, including Harpa de Sião, Cecília, and Magnificat, coletânea de cantos litúrgicos. But I have run into some difficulty with a recently-created publication, Harpa de Sião: suplemento – I don't have access to early editions of this book, apparently very popular in Brasil. I feel like the two pages for Harpa de Sião should be one page, but I don't know how to combine them: the situation with all the editions is a mystery to me. Do you have suggestions? — Barry Johnston (talk) 16:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi Barry! A belated Happy New Year! :) I need to get acquainted with this subject first, will inform you about whatever I find, ok? Regards, —Carlos (talk) 16:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks Carlos! And a belated Happy New Year to you. Sounds good, I will wait to see what you find. — Barry Johnston (talk) 18:50, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi again, Barry. From what I could see, the supplement could very well be on the same page of the main publication. Note that this was done at IMSLP: Harpa de Sião (Lehmann, Padre João Baptista). We could maybe create a new section and move the supplement under it, what do you think? I'm still in doubt if this supplement belongs to the 1st or 3rd edition, so I wrote Catuí asking for clarification. —Carlos (talk) 01:12, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Hi Barry, I talked with Catuí and he explained to me that the Supplement is an independent book; that was the reason why he put it on a separate page. But he wouldn't mind if the pages are eventually merged. —Carlos (talk) 00:12, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Pone luctum

Christ is risen! I would like to ask about the real Composer of tune "Pone luctum, sume vestem", if he is known? There are two persons with the same last name "Mohr", but with different first names: Joseph Franz and Joseph Hermann. Both of them are born after 1750, when probably the tune was composed and can't be a Composer of this tune. Joseph Franz Mohr was text author of some Hymns, but Joseph Hermann Mohr was known as composer of many Latin Hymns (tunes). In edited of Hermann Mohr "Cantiones Sacrae" in 1878 there is his arranged hymn "Pone luctum, sume vestem" under nr. 71 on the page 170 of downloadable PDF file: https://ia801605.us.archive.org/12/items/cantionessacrae00mohrgoog/cantionessacrae00mohrgoog.pdf That arrangement is different from the present edition of Rev. Abel Di Marco on CPDL page, where as Composer is indicated Joseph Franz Mohr. The same harmonization is on the page of "Cappella Gregoriana" of Rev. Abel Di Marco, but with alternative file: https://cappellagregoriana.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pone-luctum.pdf , where is indicated a Composer J. B. C. Schmidts and arranger Joseph Hermann Mohr. However that version is different from Joseph Hermann Mohr's arrangement in "Cantiones Sacrae". To whom belong the harmonization, edited by Rev. Abel Di Marco?? Is it his proper harmonization? I think that it is a misattribution of Composer name to Joseph Franz Mohr, as we have indication of harmonizer Joseph Hermann Mohr. The real Composer of tune may be remain unknown!?! Andris Solims (talk) 14:14, 3 May 2023 (UTC)Andris Solims

Hello Mr Solims! Sorry that I can't be of any help to you on this, my knowledge on the subject is quite limited. Kind regards, —Carlos (talk) 01:34, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
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